Hi there! I see your Sober app won’t open. Let's work to get that sorted out. Could you tell me a bit more? For example:

- When you tap to open the app, do you see any error messages or does it just stay on a blank screen?
- Has this problem just started recently or has the app never opened on your Android 10 device?
- Have you tried any steps already like restarting your phone or reinstalling the app?

This info will help me give you the best guidance. Meanwhile, here are some common troubleshooting steps for apps that won’t open on Android OS 10 and WebKit browser environment:

1. Restart your phone to clear temporary glitches.
2. Clear the app’s cache and data:
- Go to Settings > Apps > Sober.
- Tap Storage.
- Tap Clear Cache and then Clear Data.
Note: Clearing data may reset app settings.
3. Check for app updates in Google Play Store and update if available.
4. If the problem persists, uninstall and reinstall the Sober app.
5. Ensure your Android OS 10 is up to date with the latest patches.

If after these steps the app still won’t open, there may be a deeper issue like corrupted app files or compatibility problems. In that case, please let me know what happened from these steps, and we’ll try advanced troubleshooting.

Are you able to try those initial steps and tell me how it goes?

Sober doesn't open on Linux mint cinnamon

Hi! I see you’re having trouble opening the Sober app on Linux Mint Cinnamon. That’s quite different from Android, so let's get into some Linux-specific checks.

To start, could you share a bit more about your setup? For example:
- How did you install Sober on Linux Mint—via Flatpak, Snap, or another method?
- When you try to open the app, does it give any error message or just fail silently?
- Have you checked whether any processes related to Sober start briefly and then close?
- Are you running Linux Mint 20, 21, 22, or another version?

Meanwhile, here are some initial steps you can try which commonly help with apps not launching on Linux Mint Cinnamon:

1. Run Sober from Terminal:
Open your terminal and type sober (or the command used to launch the app). This might output error messages that can clue us in on what’s wrong.

2. Check Flatpak Permissions (if installed via Flatpak):
Sometimes Flatpak apps need extra permissions. Run the command:
<br> flatpak info --show-permissions com.sober.app<br>
Replace com.sober.app with the actual app ID. Adjust permissions using Flatseal or flatpak override if needed.

3. Reinstall Sober from Flatpak:
Remove the app:
<br> flatpak uninstall com.sober.app<br>
Then reinstall it fresh:
<br> flatpak install flathub com.sober.app<br>

4. Update System and Graphics Drivers:
Make sure your Linux Mint and graphics drivers are fully updated as outdated or missing drivers can cause app launch issues.

5. Check Dependency Errors:
Sometimes Sober requires certain libraries or dependencies that may be missing or mismatched. Running from the terminal can help reveal these errors.

If after these checks the app still won’t open, the issue may be deeper. There are reports from Linux Mint users about Sober failing to launch after reboot or closing immediately, especially with Flatpak versions—this might require specific patches or waiting for a bug fix from developers1 2 3.

Please let me know what you find when running from the terminal or trying these steps, and we can continue troubleshooting together!

Are you satisfied with this starting solution for your Linux Mint Sober issue?

When I try to open the app it just flashes a black square and then it closes. I used flat pack to installed. I already reinstalled it and the system is updated.

Thanks for sharing those details! Since you installed Sober via Flatpak on Linux Mint Cinnamon, and the app just flashes a black square then closes even after reinstalling and updating your system, this behavior matches known issues reported by other users.

Here’s what I recommend based on common causes and current discussions:

1. Update your Flatpak apps and runtimes fully:
Run in your terminal:
bash <br> flatpak update <br>
Sometimes missing updates to runtimes or Flatpak itself cause crashes.

2. Check for graphics-related errors:
Sober has known crashes on hybrid graphics setups (e.g., laptops with both integrated Intel and discrete Nvidia/AMD GPUs), often due to Vulkan or display issues. Try running Sober via terminal to capture errors:
bash <br> flatpak run com.vinegarhq.Sober <br>
Look especially for errors mentioning Vulkan, graphics, or missing libraries.

3. Try launching with environment variables to disable Vulkan or force OpenGL:
Sometimes setting environment variables helps with graphics compatibility:
bash <br> flatpak run --env=VK_ICD_FILENAMES= --env=VK_LAYER_PATH= com.vinegarhq.Sober <br>
This disables Vulkan layers that might be problematic. Alternatively, if there's an OpenGL fallback, try to force that.

4. Permissions issue with Flatpak and D-Bus:
Some users report Flatpak Sober crashes with "failed to sync with dbus proxy" errors. Running:
bash <br> flatpak override --user com.vinegarhq.Sober --talk-name=org.freedesktop.DBus <br>
can help grant the needed permission.

5. Try installing the .deb or AppImage (if available) instead of Flatpak:
If Flatpak version keeps crashing, and you don’t specifically need Flatpak sandboxing, alternative formats might avoid these bugs.

6. Report or check active issues for your exact Flatpak version here:
- GitHub Sober issues: github.com/vinegarhq/sober/issues
- Reddit Linux community discussions: reddit.com/r/soberlinux

Many reports point to ongoing fixes around Flatpak packaging and graphics compatibility, so the developers are actively working on it1 2 3 4.

Please try those steps and especially share any errors you get running it from the terminal. That info will help us narrow down the exact cause and potentially find a workaround.

Are you satisfied with these next steps for fixing Sober’s startup crash with Flatpak on your Linux Mint system?

It says that app/com.vinegarhq.Sober/x86_64/master is not installed

Thanks for letting me know the exact error message: "app/com.vinegarhq.Sober/x86_64/master not installed." This typically means that Flatpak is trying to run or reference a Sober app version or remote that isn’t properly installed or registered on your system.

From what I see, this error can happen if the Flatpak remote or app ID is mistyped, missing, or the Flatpak repository configuration is outdated. Here’s how we can address it step-by-step:

1. Verify the Correct Flatpak App ID
The correct Flatpak app ID for Sober is usually org.vinegarhq.Sober (note the “org” at the start), not com.vinegarhq.Sober. So running commands using com.vinegarhq.Sober might cause such errors.
Try running:
bash <br> flatpak run org.vinegarhq.Sober <br>
to see if it launches.

2. Check Installed Flatpak apps
List installed Flatpak apps to confirm the exact app ID:
bash <br> flatpak list <br>
Look for Sober in the list and note its app ID.

3. Add the sober Flatpak remote if missing
If you installed from a non-Flathub source or the remote is missing, you may want to add the official sober repository and install from there:
bash <br> flatpak remote-add --if-not-exists sober https://sober.vinegarhq.org/repo/sober.flatpakrepo <br> flatpak install sober org.vinegarhq.Sober <br>
This ensures you have the proper remote and app.

4. Remove incorrect com.vinegarhq.Sober references
If you previously installed or attempted with an incorrect app ID (com.vinegarhq.Sober), uninstall it:
bash <br> flatpak uninstall com.vinegarhq.Sober <br>

5. Run the app with correct ID
After reinstalling properly, run the app with:
bash <br> flatpak run org.vinegarhq.Sober <br>

6. Logout/Login or reboot your system
Sometimes Flatpak installations need a fresh user session to properly register new apps.

These steps correspond to known Flatpak installation errors with Sober reported by users1 3 4 5.

Could you try verifying your installed Flatpak apps and reinstalling Sober via the official sober remote with the correct app ID? Let me know what output or errors you see, and we’ll troubleshoot further from there.

Are you satisfied with this guidance on fixing the Flatpak installation error?

There are 3 errors URL:'https://APIs.roblox.com/attribution/vl/events/post-authentication Code:'nil' body:'nil'

Thank you for sharing the error details about those three Roblox API errors from Sober: the URL https://APIs.roblox.com/attribution/v1/events/post-authentication showing code and body as 'nil' suggests that Sober is having trouble communicating properly with Roblox's authentication servers.

This issue has been noted in several similar reports where the Sober app experiences HTTP errors on requests to Roblox APIs, particularly during login or authentication steps4. It might be caused by:

- Network issues or firewall settings blocking Sober from reaching Roblox’s API endpoints.
- Authentication tokens or credentials becoming invalid or corrupted.
- Roblox changing or restricting access to their API endpoints, which third-party apps like Sober rely on.
- Sober’s current Flatpak version or Linux compatibility having bugs affecting API calls.

Here are some steps to try resolving or working around these API errors:

1. Check your internet connection and firewall settings:
Make sure nothing is blocking Sober from accessing outside servers on your network. Temporarily disabling firewall or VPNs (if any) might help test this.

2. Try logging in on another device or network:
Some users reported success by authenticating on a different device or network first to refresh their credentials5.

3. Run Sober from terminal to check for detailed logs:
Using this command might show more specific HTTP errors or authentication failures:
bash <br> flatpak run org.vinegarhq.Sober <br>
Then check the log files located at:
~/.var/app/org.vinegarhq.Sober/data/sober/sober_logs/9.

4. Watch for updates or patches:
Since Roblox APIs and authentication protocols can change, keep your Sober app updated. Follow https://github.com/vinegarhq/sober/issues for bug reports and fixes2.

5. Consider using a proxy or alternative API:
Some Roblox Linux users bypass API restrictions by using proxies like 'roproxy' to reroute requests10.

If after these attempts the app still fails to authenticate with those API errors, it might indicate a more complex compatibility or server-side change needing a developer patch.

Please try these steps and share any detailed error messages or log outputs you see when running Sober from the terminal. That will help me guide you further!

Are you satisfied with this approach to troubleshooting the Roblox API errors in Sober?

What if it works on a different device that has different Linux but not on this one?

Thanks for providing that context! When Sober works on one Linux device but not another—even though both are running Linux—it often comes down to differences in hardware support, drivers, kernel versions, or system configuration. Here are the most common compatibility factors that can cause this disparity:

1. Graphics Drivers and GPU Support:
Sober relies heavily on graphics support (Vulkan or OpenGL). If your problematic Linux Mint machine has outdated, missing, or incompatible GPU drivers, Sober might fail to launch or crash immediately. Hybrid graphics systems (with both integrated Intel and discrete Nvidia/AMD GPUs) often require specific driver setups or configurations to work with Sober3 9.

2. Linux Kernel Version:
Sober requires Linux kernel version 5.11 or newer to run properly4. If your system’s kernel is older, it might lack necessary features or drivers.

3. Flatpak Sandbox Permissions and Configuration:
If you installed Sober via Flatpak, differences in sandbox permissions or remote repository configurations can lead to errors on one machine but not another.

4. Missing Dependencies:
Some system libraries or dependencies might be installed on the working device but absent on the non-working one.

5. System Architecture or Environment Differences:
Even slight differences in your Linux Mint builds, desktop environment (Cinnamon vs others), or installed packages can impact app compatibility.

Recommended next steps:
- Check your Linux Mint kernel version with uname -r and confirm it’s 5.11 or higher.
- Verify GPU drivers: Update to the latest stable drivers for your GPU (e.g., from Nvidia PPA or Intel/AMD official sources).
- Compare Flatpak versions and Sober app IDs between working and non-working machines with flatpak info org.vinegarhq.Sober.
- Review Sober logs from ~/.var/app/org.vinegarhq.Sober/data/sober/sober_logs/ on the problematic device for error clues.
- Consider testing a non-Flatpak version or an AppImage installer if available, to bypass Flatpak-related sandboxing issues.

You can also find detailed community discussions on similar issues here:
- GitHub Sober issues on graphics support
- Linux Gaming Reddit on Sober trouble
- Linux Mint forums on hybrid graphics and Sober

If you’d like, I can guide you step-by-step through checking these areas on your Linux Mint Cinnamon device. Just let me know!

Are you satisfied with this overview on why Sober might work on one Linux device but not another?

Both versions are the same the difference is that one device runs Linux mint cinnamon and the other Linux Debian gnom

Great question! Since you mentioned both devices run the same Sober version but one uses Linux Mint Cinnamon and the other runs Debian GNOME, the difference in desktop environments and base distro can definitely impact app behavior. Here’s a breakdown to clarify:

1. Linux Mint Cinnamon vs Debian GNOME base system
- Linux Mint Cinnamon is based on Ubuntu (which is Debian-derived), but Mint adds a lot of polish, customizations, and its own repositories.
- Debian is more minimal and closer to upstream, with fewer pre-installed tweaks. GNOME is Debian’s default desktop environment, while Cinnamon is Mint’s in-house developed DE derived from GNOME 3 but with different goals and resource usage1 2.

2. Desktop Environment Differences (Cinnamon vs GNOME)
- Cinnamon is visually heavier and offers more Mint-specific features but generally provides good stability and usability4 5. GNOME is more resource-intensive and uses GTK 3/4 natively with different UI paradigms.
- Some apps—especially those using certain GPU features or system integrations—may behave differently under these DEs due to how they handle compositing, window management, or display servers.

3. Potential factors affecting Sober app compatibility
- Graphics Stack: Linux Mint Cinnamon often uses newer, more updated graphics drivers packaged with Ubuntu base repositories, while Debian GNOME might have older or different driver versions depending on its release version.
- System Libraries and Dependencies: Debian’s minimalist base might lack some libraries or versions Sober expects, while Mint bundles more up-to-date versions by default.
- Sandboxing and Permissions: Flatpak permissions or integration with the desktop environment may behave slightly differently between Mint and Debian, impacting network or file permissions.

4. Community Feedback and Reports
- Several users have reported hiccups running Flatpak apps like Sober on Cinnamon compared to GNOME setups, largely due to driver versions or Flatpak sandbox glitches5.
- GNOME on Debian sometimes offers a leaner but more stable base for apps dependent on GTK and related systems.

What you can do:
- Compare graphics driver versions (nvidia-smi or glxinfo | grep OpenGL) and kernel versions on both devices.
- Check your Flatpak and Sober permissions.
- Try running Sober with debugging in the terminal on your Mint Cinnamon device to catch any DE-related errors.
- If possible, test Sober outside Flatpak on Mint or switch desktop environments temporarily to GNOME to see if it launches.

Here’s a helpful video explaining Mint vs LMDE (the Debian edition Mint) and desktop environment differences: Linux Mint or LMDE? Choosing The Best Edition For You 1.

If you’d like, I can guide you through specific commands for checking drivers, Flatpak permissions, or logs on your Mint Cinnamon machine. Just let me know!

Are you satisfied with this explanation about how the difference between Linux Mint Cinnamon and Debian GNOME might affect the Sober app?